Sci-fi/ horror (it's all the rage!)

[malika]

For example: if humans launch a rocket into space it gets shot down, as would anything else trying to get into space. The humans can not do anything to the AG as it is in orbit, and the AG is literally letting humans do their own thing. Humans can not get to the AG.

But if that is the case, wouldn't it be possible that this is only going on on a single or a couple of worlds?

In a horror sense, the idea of something getting around this immense power is pretty worrying, and the demons and such is where the fun starts - as even this all powerful machine can not protect humans from everything. The idea that the AG is also confining humans to their demonic fate is also an element in horror, but once a super-psionic being (deity) blasts the AG out of the sky I'm sure most humans are not going to be overjoyed at being 'liberated'

Sounds to be that humans are potentially a threat to the AG (psionics), so the AG would probably think what would be more beneficial, a risk of being destroyed by some super-psionic being or keep on studying psionic powers. Why keep the humans then? If it's because the machine is interested in psionics, wouldn't it be wiser if it kept those humans with that power in isolation for study? Perhaps it's only a smaller percentage of humans who have these powers (random anomaly) meaning that the machines actually "grow" humans so they could harvest those with the psionics for study.

But as I say, everything is possible, but I will try to put it in context to the framework. So yes you can have machines, android etc but they may not be doing things or working for what most the in game characters think.

The allegiance thing I suggested might be purely for game mechanics, so to determine what kind of equipment/support/units the player can have access to. This doesn't mean that the player immediately has to be fighting for that same cause. That's where the whole potential double/triple agent vibe comes in.

Aliens may not have to invade, they may simply come into being and on the surface of the world before the AG knows what has happened.

This could be used to explain away almost anything, even 'orcs' could be the result of a psionic manifestation event, and then they reproduce and grow.

So they become into being (how exactly) because humans with psionic powers think so or something along those lines? I wouldn't mind seeing aliens who themselves are as powerful as AG's (or at least give it quite a punch). Now this doesn't mean "liberation" for humans as you say. I assume those aliens fear humanity's potential of causing daemons and deities to manifest themselves so they set out to exterminate humanity (sort of like how the Cabal in Legion believe that the extermination of mankind can actually save the universe) to prevent this from happening. The AG wages war against the alien.

[Philip S]

With the psionic angle, the idea of masses of humans on a world bring about manifestations once in the trillions, means that it is not obvious this is what is going to happen when the population numbers and densities are lower. I am putting it forwards and an unpredictable emergent property - the AG may simply not know what is coming...

As for studying humans, the AG lets them do there thing because a natural enviroment and density breeds ideas, thoughts, stress and provokes emotions which all spike psionic activity. Shutting humans away may actually reduce this affect, and limit the type of phenomena the Ag obverses.

In the event of manifestations, the AG may not assess it as a threat by an unusual phenomena worthy of further study - until it is too late.

This is a general view of functioning AG protected worlds and does not hold true to all worlds.

Note; while I remember, the AG also have cloaked deep apace stations/ super massive industrial complexes where they build machines and other AG. I am taken with the concept of those black monoliths from the film 2001, but am open to suggestions.

Philip

[malika]

Funny to read this thread back...so old...yet still so relevant.

By the way, you might want to check this little post. Quite interesting on how to approach scifi writing/creating.

[malika]

Ha!

io9.com/why-space-is-the-scariest-place-to-encounter-the-supern-1712603614

[PondaNagura]

Hey guys!

I wasn't sure where else to put this, but I think it fits with the theme of the thread. I've been pondering some thoughts on a kind of transdimensional warp drive. It's a move near/at speed of light type engine, maybe FTL. The idea is that rather than the whole ship moving through to another dimension just part of the engine does. It also plays on the idea that for every instant there's a near infinite amount of parallel reality/dimensions that branch out from it.

It operates like one of those ball-clacking Newton's cradle desk things. The drive is attuned(how? I don't know yet) to the dimension it starts in, where a reactor builds up a jolt of energy that spikes the drive into another reality/dimension. That dimension suddenly gains an excess bit of mass/energy, violating its conservation of energy and "explodes" forcing the drive back through to the attuned parent dimension, the event causes a ripple in space that pushes the ship. However, the drive carries any excess energy/mass away from the parent dimension into another dimension and the process repeats. Basically every instant the ship moves it's because it's crew are (un)knowingly violating and destroying another plane of existence.
Would that be called demitricide?

Whenever the drive is shut off it ends up up in another dimension which gets destroyed resulting in a last nudge. So aside from needing to recharge the reactor for another spike, any vessel would need to carry either an extra drive or means to fabricate new ones at their arrival point.

Energy is still being converted, but relative to an omnidimensional perspective, the parent dimension is getting a comparatively decent return....at the expense of whole other realities.
But, hey, there's all the other near infinite possibilities to carry on. How is that for a grimdark idea?

*I probably left some thoughts out somewhere.

[malika]

Don't worry so much about the location of this post. Me and Philip have been discussing space ships and space travel in the Supremacy thread.

[malika]

Another one of those "I dont know where to post this" things.

Kinda makes you wonder how SITA era historians would discuss the Psidemic...

www.quietearth.us/articles/2015/08/Search-for-Cause-of-Apocalypse-Gets-Amusing-in-BUREAU-OF-PROTO-SOCIETY-Full-Short

[PondaNagura]

That is hilarious, I love it.

I have no clue where to put this, not even grim dark, but follows I think some of the original aims of warspike? Perhaps we should start another thread of interest in the misc section?

[PondaNagura]

Great, now we might have to worry about drunk robots stumbling around the near-future battlefields.

Also holy crap, that thing is walking...on two legs, without a harness, outside.