[Pre-Supremacy] Architecture (pre-pre-Ecoria!) Mar 15, 2015 13:57:20 GMT -5
Post by Philip S on Mar 15, 2015 13:57:20 GMT -5
Yeah, it also means that 'Earth' in a story might not always our Earth. I see the term 'Earth' as meaning 'home world'. All humans, no matter where they live in the galaxy/ universe, consider their world 'Earth'. The machines probably have a really long number string for each 'Earth'.
I like automated parking for it's sci-fi feel, though it's another point of failure in the overall design. For a specific area, with high cost land and high volume 'sales' (i.e. a person pays a fair bit for a sort stay, rather than a home owner or tenant paying for their long term parking spot) it makes a lot of sense. For the pre-pre-Ecoria is might be too expensive, but for later designs built in the machine run economy it might be perfectly fine. Right now, with this pre-pre-ecoria design, I thinking 'if I had a few million, how would I build it and get a return on my investment'.
It is something to bear in mind. I think Milton Keynes and Thamesmead are good examples of pre-built towns, though both started off isolated. I think they worked because they are so near to London, with good inter-connecting infrastructure, and London house prices are sky high. However I'm thinking I would build my apartments along the roads that connect such places to London, and then if possible, into London. It's a way of adding more housing in a dense population centre (also love Tokyo for architecture ideas, and I think these designs would be good of Japan too!) and adding in a new road layer, and all that extra parking, along with 'green space' for those who live there.
Realistically, I think 'stacked roads' in a usable sense for main traffic, only makes sense when you run out of land to build on and the UK is a long way from that! However if the development is really big, they may be a case to jump into an electric car to get from one end to the other, thought bike would be just as good (unless shopping). If really big there could be a supermarket on site that does home deliveries using electric vehicles? There would be a lot of interior space within a large triangular prism development with many floors. All kinds of shops and business units.
To be trite, there is 'no such think as a new idea', and 'history repeats', and ...
I do not mind the idea that some of this seems very old, from past visionaries, but I think the execution is a bit different (I hope!).
There is always a need for 'gangs'! The modern world have demonised certain groups that band together for their own defence and advantage (self organising pre-tribe behaviours) and christened them 'gangs'. A 'clique' is a socially acceptable 'gang'. A clique of low income, unemployed, individuals often engaged in criminal activity to gain (alternate) social standing, resources, and alleviate boredom are a 'gang'. They act like this because they feel shut out from mainstream society that they do not like, a society that often looks down on them and marginalises them, so they make their own society (piggy backed onto the mainstream society). Humans always do this, we need friends to survive in hostile or difficult times. It's how organised crime develops if the mainstream cannot crush it/ restore order, and if the organised crime gains control of an area they often go legit, taking over, and then restore their own order that often matches the mainstream. It's a type of 'stealth invasion' (that sounds very Republican!). It may sound odd talking about gangs as if they are natural phenomena, and obvious human behaviour for a given scenario, but that's how I see it, the continuous change in society (like digging over a field). I do not see most 'gang' members are being intrinsically evil, they are often making the best of a situation and have to pick a side, though often their leaders are horrific because that's the type of person that can control a gang... I've slipped a little off topic, enough of my social mumbo jumbo!
I think this is a natural consequence of the system. Western societies know that not everyone can have a job, it's pretty obvious, but a government is supposed to do something about it: but what can the do? The easiest way is to demonise the unemployed, tell them it's their fault, that they are lazy (reminds me of the South of America during the time they had slaves and called their slave 'lazy', because they did not want to work unless whipped, or threatened with the whip. I see this same reasoning in modern politicians). Having said that I'm sure some of the unemployed are lazy (though there are often psychological reason for this level of disengagement), but most are not, and most are very angry about what is said about them. Most working class men I've spoken to are livid that their are no decent jobs (ones they consider appropriate) and that everything seems to be moving to China. They do not want to work in a call centre (and you probably wouldn't want them too!), or be a cleaner, etc. They see themselves are 'builders' they like the idea of making a better place to live. They blame the government. Which brings me to the often cited 'apathy' in British voters - this is often not true, most do not want to vote for any party because they do not believe anything a politician says, or have any faith to deliver what they promise. They only see the politicians lining their own pockets no matter who you vote for.
More a 'pick your four year dictatorship' than democracy. And then the winning party, often getting in on a tiny percentage of the population, claim they have a mandate (even when less than 50% of the population, and often 70%, did not vote for them).
This thread/ design is about 'here and now'. I'm looking at the issues modern cities have (well London at least) and thinking how I can solve some of the housing and congestion issues. So most if the social and economic setting is 'current' or very 'near future'.
this article. We could perhaps have a government apparatus dealing with this, or the system could already be a lot more 'automated'. Why am I thinking of The Machine from Person of Interesthere? A sort of pre-pre-Artificial Ghod basically...
I love 'person of interest'! I think surveillance is only going to increase on the internet, but that has more to do with 'terrorists'. However in Britain, and London, there is a decrease in camera surveillance budgets because it doesn't work. Though this may be a case that it is stopping crime, but how do you measure a crime stopped by a the presence of a camera that would have otherwise been committed if a camera wasn't there? I remember what London used to be like, and how crime was 'normal' (on an epic scale) and no one reported it (grass!). London is very different now, but there are areas that remain the same (though now everyone things they have degenerated to that state, rather than stayed the same for all these years).
Yeah, a lot of computer equipment is very easy to use, but many do not follow the basics - like changing a factory default password! It's quite popular in fiction that web-cams and phone cams can be hacked. As more things get cameras I'm sure this will only increase. The Xbox One is pretty much the perfect, always on, surveillance device with the Kinect. Originally Microsoft was not going to offer one without a Kinect, and it always had to be on. It makes sense to make the Xbox One a surveillance device as everyone knows gangbangers and terrorists love computer games!
I had an idea for a 'castle' style
That's fun, though I wouldn't want to live next to it!
Perhaps a central chimney for the lower level (combustion engine layer) and the upper floors could have these direct vents for light and ventilation. I'm sure someone wouldn't mind an open vent shaft next to their garden space if it links to one of the upper layers and there is no pollution coming up or traffic noise.
A central chimney could be quite high to get the pollution away from the homes. I like the idea of air cleaning, I thought of some kind of industrial cyclone technology might be an idea, though expensive! I like your idea of using foliage to process pollution perhaps the chimneys could be capped with a garden of some sort, using some high absorption plants (reeds/ bamboo?) though I doubt it could process all that waste generated by a busy London A road.
light tubes to feed light fro the surface, or maybe upper public walks use durable translucent glazing that let ambient light down, and/or tunnel surfaces lined with OLED coating ...
A fully enclosed space would be totally black if the power went out, so I think some form of natural light is needed. It would be good to save a bit of power to. I'm now thinking there should be a vent gap between the floors. This would allow for a very large ventilation cross-section and defuse natural light (a bit like a massive sun tunnel but open at each end).
The OLED reminds me of the film Aliens where Ripley is sitting in a forest, and as the camera pans around it is revealed as a fake environment. I'm thinking that in a proper Ecorium we'll be going for Virtual Reality systems, or hybrid VR systems (that overlay onto reality, so walls could be replaced with 3D renderings). I imagine eye implants, or brain implants, could be used to do this (like my ideas on the Ad-Mec).
The current Ecorium design makes use of light panels. A type of light emitting paint (LEP). I imagine that the Gothic style, the walls would be painting in this light emitter, and the look with be akin to a church made of light with a skeletal structure of columns and ridding appearing black.
That's a great idea! Though most will be looking at their smart phones the whole time so why bother? (too grim?)
A little ad-hoc, but fun
I nice solution, but it looks expensive and probably better for high volume turnover.
I like that building, it has the modern clean square look. Plenty of glass and lots of light.
Cool. So now Sciror is part of Solarpunk? Shame is all falls apart with the Psidemic!
Probably a bit of both, they are students! Being serious the dorm lacks the central tower, and I do not think they could put one in due to privacy concerns. If they did it would probably be a CCTV. Perhaps in the dystopia future they add one.