Post by Troll Forged on Feb 21, 2010 16:07:08 GMT -5
You both got me thinking about this and the host body issue. I was thinking while most people will just use another figure to represent the energy being what about an actual sculpt of an energy being? I was thinking I could sculpt a crystaline like mass and cast it in clear color resins. It would look great I think and add a floating stand should be WOW! Might also mix with other generic sci-fi games, fun food for thought.
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Post by Judge Death on Feb 21, 2010 19:02:39 GMT -5
One thing the info on the mutzis says but is rarely portrayed in the art is the fact they like to wear these long robes with long trains that drag the floor behind them. I'd guess in the battlefield such are impractical so they wear armor instead, but if you're doing a mutzi outside the battelfield you might want to give him a long travailing robe.
One other major point with them is I'd make one generating a matrix first instead of using a gun. You don't employ mutzi mercs for regular combat duty, you hire them as matrix controllers or sometimes combat engineer/hacker types.
BTW, if/when you do an orion, be sure to model him wearing a kilt!
Its best to do some research before you buy it as to get all the races you have to buy 5 books! and check out ebay, amazon and abebooks for cheaper copies.
That might have just been in Scotland I find when you tell someone you don't drink they think its for religious reasons or your an alcoholic who doesn't want to fall off the wagon again! I just didn't enjoy it so i stopped i much prefer driving :-)
I'm not sure ill do the three i had in my head "ming" "Gun-nut" and "pirate" then maybe ill do an armored one an injured one a bionic one etc ill just try everything to get the most characterful models and while i do that ill be making Fott nudes as well got the idea for a whole redneck family!!
when are you gonna put photos of the completed ones up?
Hey, if you live in scottland you ought to like the orion rogues! Most of them claim to be scottsmen from taos 4, wear kilts and play bagpipes.
(A rogue playing a bagpipe and wearing a kilt, there's a miniature just asking to be done...)
Post by scragglefoot on Feb 22, 2010 6:51:08 GMT -5
Judgedeath "One thing the info on the mutzis says but is rarely portrayed in the art is the fact they like to wear these long robes with long trains that drag the floor behind them. I'd guess in the battlefield such are impractical so they wear armor instead, but if you're doing a mutzi outside the battlefield you might want to give him a long travailing robe."
Now judgedeath i think you might be a bit of a physic this is exactly what i have done for the robed one time for some progress shots in paint me thinks. i read the same distribution as you it says there trains are sometimes up to 2.5m long!! so for mine i have made the train a bit longer then the model is then then model is tall and have started to add creases and folds to it.
Now "Bluerazor" as you can kind of see i have started to add his armor to him. I'm not sure what the armor is called its on page 109 of the main rulebook its the one on the left I have had to modify it quite a bit as the mutzi is a very different shape to a human!
the reason I've done one with a gun instead of generating a matrix is mainly based on the artwork in the rulebook of "bluerazor" he caught my imagination and I've gone for it, i will make one "casting" as well thou
Haven't done anything to the third one yet anyone got suggestions?
@troll forged: i had the same thought about showing the energy being in its own form i figured a ball of pulsating energy in clear resin with maybe an blinking LED in it what ya think?
ferk i like the idea of fascinated by hands or size of head model for it
If you're going to do a cast generic body you might as well do a unarmed version of teh bluerazor character for the third figure. I'm not sure of the pose you intend to do for Bluerazor but if it's anything 'action' like you could just swap out the guns for matrix casting hands. Save time and provide that 'customized' character appeal.
I think bullet casings are your best bet. If you really wanted you could sculpt the top of the pistol in mid kick back. I'm not sure of the gun terminology, but teh part above the barrel slides back with every shot. That might not come off as evident though, especially if you're going to do a sci-fi weopon of any sort.
Remember that pic of ming the merciless you posted? I remember him striking a somewhat evil femine hand gesture. I think some kind of ritualized hand posing would look good for the robed one. A kind of christian/greek classical sculpt of one hand raised in a gesture and the other holding a orb or document, or dagger...That would give him the dignity his advanced race demands. Maybe even give his head a slightly cocked back sneering manner. Kind of looking down his nose at you. Even though he doesn't really have a nose.
For the formless energy creature, i think if you do a hovering transparent sculpt, it should be hovering over a slain miniature, preparing to enter it or departing it. The slain fig would just be a part of the base and if people wanted just the energy cloud they could use a regular base. and use the dead guy as a casualty piece.
Post by scragglefoot on Feb 22, 2010 7:42:39 GMT -5
That sounds awesome not sure if i can sculpt that thou guns are my weak point the plan was it was going to be a tommy gun as in the art work thats what it looks like then again i could be wrong not really up to speed on guns! think ill go with casings piled up round his feet then :-)
Thats also sounds awesome (your on a roll here!!) ill use my googlefu to find some inspiring photos (they had cameras during the roman empire right?)
good plan variation is the spice of life and if you control the spice you control everything :-) Ill have a experiment with balls of energy later how big do you thing they should be?
Sure they had cameras, they even had movies. You've seen 'Caligula' right?
I would think a formless ball of energy would be about the size of a reg 25mm figure, just balled up. Too big would be really top heavy. If you do decide to do a slain fig underneath, i would maybe make the energy ball slighty 'attracted' to it. with the ball smoother on top and somewhat 'decending, or acending' on the bottom, as though it is getting ready to enter or leave it's host. like it has a realtionship with the ground/host somewhat. I'm thinking, vague vapourous tentacles just starting to reach out from beneath it. be careful though not to make it look like a fire- ball shooting upwards. Just an idea.
about the shooting, I think to make it seem like he's really unloading on something, make the gun kicking upwards a bit. if it's just pointing straight ahead it won't look like he's going nuts with it. giving him a angry face will make it look more like he's actually firing it too. That would make the shells on the ground look more dynamic and in the moment. Tommy guns are wildly inaccurate, and i have a feeling a four foot alien is no 'Machinegun Tony'
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I just made a new thread for the four i've started on. No pics yet but i will put some on soon. I like adding pics even of the very beginning. It's a good way to get feedback and ideas. Especially with these guys, as there is alot of stuff i don't know the exact details on.
He's what i was thinking for a pose. This happens to be George Washington, our first Caesar, but you get the idea...